online poker strategy/rigged.?
My strategy is to play tighter than normal. I mean alot tighter. Sometimes laying down top 2 pair. The other day I held A-Qo, raised preflop with 2 callers. Flop A-J-Q. So I bet to protect against the straight and the 2 called. And lo and behold the turn was a 10. I have fallen victim to this shceme many of time in the online poker world. So I checked and one guy bet the other called, so I folded, rive was a 4 and the two went all in and sure enough a preflop caller with the all mighty pocket K-2o was the winner with the straight, the other guy had 7-7(?) Some other hands I lost to that night was 3-9c when I had Q-Q, lost to a flush that hand, my 6-6 lost to 7-6h to a flush, and another Q-Q lost to 9-9. In all these hands I raised pre flop and the person went all in, each time they were short stacked. When I became short stacked and about to be blinded out I pick up K-K. went all in, 2 callers. Flop 8-8-Q. One bet and the other folded. He shows K-Q. Turn 8, and river (I’ll give yall one geuss) the last 8 in the deck for the split pot. All these came in a $33 buy in with $15,000 guarenteed. I thought maybe the level of play would be better but I forgot the same RNG is the same no matter what level. Maybe I should tighten it up even more and hope to flop a royal flush. that seems like they only sure way to win online.
I really dont think on line sites are rigged it was just to catch readers eyes and comment. I have been playing poker for 8 years and I understand the variences that come with the came. If I lose I lose. Its just the way it happens sometimes. This was just one instance where it happened over and over.
First. Is online poker rigged? Maybe in some cases, some players (including well known pros)speculate about the Poker Action Flop, here is a link to the article: http://www.thedoverpro.com/poker-action-flop.htm
Second, I play online poker several days a week and I win pretty consistently. I only play tournament poker, never ring cash games, where I think there is a lot of collusion on certain sites.
I have had some bad runs too, and in a couple tournies it was just as outrageous as your story, but then I suspect that that were some hands you won also during the game, we sometimes forget those during a bad run. There is little you can do except to play the odds, get in with the best hand, over time the precentages will favor you.
Here is something to think about in tournament play. To survive to the final table you will be involved in many showdowns. To make the final table, you will have to win a lot of these showdowns. And to win these showdown does take some luck.
Suppose we use an example here. You are in a tournament and you have an all in showdown where you are favored by 70%. You win. The same thing happens in two more hands. Great, right? Well, maybe not. If you lost any one of those hands you are gone. To survive, you had to win all three showdowns. The odds were in fact against you, with the chances of winning all three hands at about 34%. You were actually an underdog to stay in that freeroll tournament, even with your highly advantageous hands!
And in tournaments, the short stacks have to take a chance with what they get, and they will.
Good luck!
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Lots of people that lose at poker share your opinion.
But I can see your point. The other day in a tournament I was playing someone limped UTG with 10-4 offsuit. The BB raised with pocket 9′s. He called.
The flop was 10-10-4. Then the turn was a 9, all the money went in, and the river was the last 9 giving the guy quads. Unreal.
Just last week, late in the tourney, I pushed with Q-5, and the big blind called with 6-8. The flop was 6-6-6. Awful. Then the turn was a Q, and the river was a Q, just to rub it in…
Then we looked at the 6th card, and it was the FINAL QUEEN. What are the odds?
How did we look at the 6th card? Because these were LIVE tournaments. Things happen in poker.
But back to your point, yes, the people winning tons of money on-line never play a hand unless they flop a royal flush.
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Variance is a bitch and a poker players worst enemy, not fish. Just keep making +EV moves and in the long run the luck will catch up. I always hear people complain about one site or another being rigged, but who would it be rigged for? The sites get their cut from the rake they charge. The more hands you play, the more unbelievable situations you will see. I’ve personally been credited money from Pokerstars because they found people in the SNG’s I was playing to be colluding, so that in itself tells me they aren’t trying to make you go broke. Some will argue that RNG’s aren’t "pure" enough, but after playing tens of thousands of hands a month I would say you really have to play the person still, not your cards. Minimizing your mistakes and laying down things like top two to a four straight(which sucks, but is obv) is what will turn things around. That and a winning mindset. Maybe you need to loosen up, weak/tight players are the ones that seem to get attacked a lot more. GL at the tables.
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Minimum 400 games a month, not a lot but enough for a good sample size over time.
with 10000 or 20000 player the poker program deals alot of good starting hands so that everyone throws chips into the pot making it easier to eliminate players at a faster rate tourniments finish faster than normal so the site makes more money quicker
References :
First. Is online poker rigged? Maybe in some cases, some players (including well known pros)speculate about the Poker Action Flop, here is a link to the article: http://www.thedoverpro.com/poker-action-flop.htm
Second, I play online poker several days a week and I win pretty consistently. I only play tournament poker, never ring cash games, where I think there is a lot of collusion on certain sites.
I have had some bad runs too, and in a couple tournies it was just as outrageous as your story, but then I suspect that that were some hands you won also during the game, we sometimes forget those during a bad run. There is little you can do except to play the odds, get in with the best hand, over time the precentages will favor you.
Here is something to think about in tournament play. To survive to the final table you will be involved in many showdowns. To make the final table, you will have to win a lot of these showdowns. And to win these showdown does take some luck.
Suppose we use an example here. You are in a tournament and you have an all in showdown where you are favored by 70%. You win. The same thing happens in two more hands. Great, right? Well, maybe not. If you lost any one of those hands you are gone. To survive, you had to win all three showdowns. The odds were in fact against you, with the chances of winning all three hands at about 34%. You were actually an underdog to stay in that freeroll tournament, even with your highly advantageous hands!
And in tournaments, the short stacks have to take a chance with what they get, and they will.
Good luck!
References :
http://www.thedoverpro.com/poker.htm
You really didn’t supply enough information to truly analyze your hands. Raising preflop could mean min raising which is near worthless, it could mean that it was early in a tournament and the blinds were really low. The same goes for betting after the flop. How much, what were the blinds, how big was your stack, how big was theirs, was someone in the Big Blind etc. etc.
It’s not really a question of tightening or loosening up unless you really analyze all aspects of the hand.
Feel free to rewrite your question on here or post on my poker hand review forum.
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http://www.diamondbonus.com
Live poker is played with 52 cards so theoreticaly every winning hand is already in the deck after the cards been shuffled
Online poker is played with max 2*10 + flop + turn + river = 25 cards
After dealing a program flops cards depending on who bets,raises,calls,ect
It is perfectly possible to write programs that give players x% more action cards
still random (fair?) and legal and nobody would ever notice a difference in stastistics.
So why would’nt they????
Just logic sence